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Running a Fishery
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Pumpaction
2008-09-21 15:59:08 UTC
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Hi my name is Chris and I'm looking for some help please.
I Know of an old lake by me in west London that has been shut for two years.
If there is anyone here that runs a fishery, how do I go about getting this
one running again, it is council owned
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Many thanks
Chris
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Derek Moody
2008-09-21 18:39:27 UTC
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Post by Pumpaction
Hi my name is Chris and I'm looking for some help please.
I Know of an old lake by me in west London that has been shut for two years.
If there is anyone here that runs a fishery, how do I go about getting this
one running again, it is council owned
Permissions and so on are down to the owner - the council, so it's them you
have to persuade. First step would be to ask them why they closed it (and
if it was a pay-to-fish water why have they stopped a source of revenue.)

There -might- be a good reason or there might not. Your next step depends
on the answer.

Cheerio,
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Pumpaction
2008-09-21 19:39:45 UTC
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Post by Pumpaction
Hi my name is Chris and I'm looking for some help please.
I Know of an old lake by me in west London that has been shut for two years.
If there is anyone here that runs a fishery, how do I go about getting this
one running again, it is council owned
Permissions and so on are down to the owner - the council, so it's them you
have to persuade. First step would be to ask them why they closed it (and
if it was a pay-to-fish water why have they stopped a source of revenue.)
There -might- be a good reason or there might not. Your next step depends
on the answer.
Cheerio,
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Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
Hi Derek
Thanks for that, the lake was shut since the last mob to run
it ran of with the money.
It is quite overgrown now but nothing a couple of weeks gardening won't sort
out.
Jon
2008-09-22 09:20:53 UTC
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Pumpaction wrote...
Post by Pumpaction
Thanks for that, the lake was shut since the last mob to run
it ran of with the money.
It is quite overgrown now but nothing a couple of weeks gardening won't sort
out.
Did they run off with the fish too?

Councils would usually expect their rent up front. If the previous lot
didn't pay, it could be because they couldn't make any decent dosh out
of the lake. Not all lakes have queues of people wanting to join at
whatever cost.
Derek Moody
2008-09-22 14:30:17 UTC
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Post by Jon
Pumpaction wrote...
Post by Pumpaction
Thanks for that, the lake was shut since the last mob to run
it ran of with the money.
It is quite overgrown now but nothing a couple of weeks gardening won't sort
out.
Councils would usually expect their rent up front. If the previous lot
didn't pay, it could be because they couldn't make any decent dosh out
of the lake. Not all lakes have queues of people wanting to join at
whatever cost.
There may be all sorts of other unresolved issues - including possible legal
action.

A very cautious enquiry about the situation and possibly a request for
permission to make a survey (legal and physical - you couldn't use it as a
free fishing permit) might be in order.

You need to know -exactly- why the previous operators cleared out before you
do anything. You should think about contacting a land agent - advice from
here is worth exactly what you are paying for it...

Cheerio,
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Fishing: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
Gandalf
2008-09-22 20:36:25 UTC
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I would add that asking in local tackle shops as well or trying to get in
contact with anyone involved in its previous use. Get as much info form as
many people as you can then you might see the pattern of what happened.
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Gandalf
Post by Derek Moody
Post by Jon
Pumpaction wrote...
Post by Pumpaction
Thanks for that, the lake was shut since the last mob to run
it ran of with the money.
It is quite overgrown now but nothing a couple of weeks gardening won't sort
out.
Councils would usually expect their rent up front. If the previous lot
didn't pay, it could be because they couldn't make any decent dosh out
of the lake. Not all lakes have queues of people wanting to join at
whatever cost.
There may be all sorts of other unresolved issues - including possible legal
action.
A very cautious enquiry about the situation and possibly a request for
permission to make a survey (legal and physical - you couldn't use it as a
free fishing permit) might be in order.
You need to know -exactly- why the previous operators cleared out before you
do anything. You should think about contacting a land agent - advice from
here is worth exactly what you are paying for it...
Cheerio,
--
Fishing: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
Pumpaction
2008-09-22 21:02:16 UTC
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Post by Gandalf
I would add that asking in local tackle shops as well or trying to get in
contact with anyone involved in its previous use. Get as much info form as
many people as you can then you might see the pattern of what happened.
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Gandalf
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Post by Jon
Pumpaction wrote...
Post by Pumpaction
Thanks for that, the lake was shut since the last mob to run
it ran of with the money.
It is quite overgrown now but nothing a couple of weeks gardening won't sort
out.
Councils would usually expect their rent up front. If the previous lot
didn't pay, it could be because they couldn't make any decent dosh out
of the lake. Not all lakes have queues of people wanting to join at
whatever cost.
There may be all sorts of other unresolved issues - including possible legal
action.
A very cautious enquiry about the situation and possibly a request for
permission to make a survey (legal and physical - you couldn't use it as a
free fishing permit) might be in order.
You need to know -exactly- why the previous operators cleared out before you
do anything. You should think about contacting a land agent - advice from
here is worth exactly what you are paying for it...
Cheerio,
--
Fishing: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
Thanks Chaps you highlighted some areas I didn't think of it might be too
much for me, but it still might be worth the questions being asked
Gandalf
2008-09-23 21:46:31 UTC
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Just as secondary though you might like to look into the idea of getting a
few mates together and running the lake as syndicate. That way you would
know how the money will work out better. You would still have to check the
lake out on all other aspects but a group of you could split the work maybe.

Just an idea.
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Gandalf
Post by Gandalf
I would add that asking in local tackle shops as well or trying to get in
contact with anyone involved in its previous use. Get as much info form
as many people as you can then you might see the pattern of what
happened.
--
Gandalf
Post by Derek Moody
Post by Jon
Pumpaction wrote...
Post by Pumpaction
Thanks for that, the lake was shut since the last mob to run
it ran of with the money.
It is quite overgrown now but nothing a couple of weeks gardening won't sort
out.
Councils would usually expect their rent up front. If the previous lot
didn't pay, it could be because they couldn't make any decent dosh out
of the lake. Not all lakes have queues of people wanting to join at
whatever cost.
There may be all sorts of other unresolved issues - including possible legal
action.
A very cautious enquiry about the situation and possibly a request for
permission to make a survey (legal and physical - you couldn't use it as a
free fishing permit) might be in order.
You need to know -exactly- why the previous operators cleared out before you
do anything. You should think about contacting a land agent - advice from
here is worth exactly what you are paying for it...
Cheerio,
--
Fishing: http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/
Thanks Chaps you highlighted some areas I didn't think of it might be too
much for me, but it still might be worth the questions being asked
Pumpaction
2008-10-02 15:57:48 UTC
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Post by Gandalf
Just as secondary though you might like to look into the idea of getting a
few mates together and running the lake as syndicate. That way you would
know how the money will work out better. You would still have to check the
lake out on all other aspects but a group of you could split the work maybe.
Just an idea.
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Gandalf
Cheers chaps have taken all on-board, Have two brother-in-laws to help out
one of which used to be a bailiff
thanks for your help will keep you informed
cheers for now
regards
Chris...
Peter Cliff
2008-11-08 18:27:33 UTC
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One of the first things you should consider is joining The Professional
Coarse Fisheries Association. They are having a meeting at the West
Midlands Golf Club near Balsall Common on Wednesday, November 18 at
11.00am. All members are fishery owners/managers or fishery consultants
who are usually happy to share their knowledge.

They can be contacted via:

http://www.pcfa.co.uk

Good luck!

Peter
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Peter Cliff
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Fisheries.co.uk
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